

And I kinda just wanted to be like "all right, you know, I'm just going to do it myself, even if it takes me like having to learn all this stuff from scratch."īut, you also placed this really big emphasis on community.

I would try to reach out to people and there's a lot of times where people can be unreliable, and there's a lot of empty promises, and this and that. That kind of just worked and in hand with just doing it myself. And, you know, I really just utilize the time that I did have in Florida, there's not much happening there, you know? It gave me a lot of years of being able to develop in my knowledge with mixing and producing with many instruments. And I think that was just time that I, fortunately, had on my hands, like where I was living in Florida. When it comes to production and mixing and doing that all yourself, you really have to take time with each craft to develop it. Not only like efficiently or quickly, but I guess it was also just by doing it myself, I was able to get it closest to the vision I've had in my mind, you know? And yeah, I think it does take a while and it's a tedious task to be teaching yourself different things.

I think that for me it was a matter of just getting things done. Why were you so hesitant to collaborate with other people in the past? And how have you seen this change benefit you in a way? You usually like to rely on yourself to cover all ends of production, but for this album, you reached out to supporting hands.
